further to the topic of 'fuck Elizabeth Moon':

[thene]

From the Beeb:

Mr Baksh said it was very rare for the Luton centre, which incorporates a mosque on its premises, to expel any members.

He said when people expressed ideas which were extreme "it's a matter of dealing with them, challenging their theological basis, and making them realise this is not the Islamic point of view, and is not the way we look at life and the situation of Muslims around the world."

In all cases, they had succeeded in persuading them not to further their ideas - "except in this particular one," he said, referring to Abdaly.

"In hindsight, maybe I should have spent a bit more time with that person."

...Now where's the equivalent comment from Scott Roeder's former priest of four years ago?